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11/29/07

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In level of pathos-drenched rhetoric and intellectual sophistication, comparing a Democrat debate to a Republican one is like comparing Britney Spears to Frank Sinatra, Charles in Charge with The Sopranos, or a Yugo to a BMW. Nothing in this debate was as stupid as the typical Kucinich ("No human being is illegal."), Richardson ("Tell Mexico to give their people jobs."), or Obama (Pick one.) statement (I'll criticize Hillary as soon as she says something. You can go here and here for Democrat debate analysis). The Republican field also spared us the "Well, I've got a program just for you" mentality of our Democrat brothers and sisters.

Besides the awkward and useless opening song and the creepy Bible guy, the youtube aspect of the debate wasn't too bad.

Follow up:

On to it, then:

Giuliani:

Good: Giuliani showed off his sense of humor with the Yankees answer (although, sports questions are easy to joke about) amongst others and demonstrated why he'll win: He's simply the most compelling person. He speaks well and has a head full of specific examples and remedies. His Bible and abortion answers were perfect. His statement that we should be offending terrorists and that Americans are smart enough to know the difference between good and dangerous Muslims was direct and common-sensical.

Bad and Ugly: Giuliani didn't make a gaffe; he planned an attack that was not only unbecoming a gentleman, but pointless and Bob Mulholland demagogic. He told Romney that he lacked credibility on illegal immigration because his landscaper hired an illegal alien (here). It's completely unreasonable for anyone to expect that a governor will walk down the steps to check his gardeners' credentials. It made Giuliani look cheap, unserious, and dumb. Although not completely analogous, Giuliani's accusation reminded me of Bob Kerry's "Lesbian" campaign-sinker during one of Kerry's debates with Bush.

I roll my eyes when Giuliani reminds us about his record, but maybe I've watched too many of these. He did confront the issue well by noting that he has a great pre-9/11 record.

Romney:

Good: He stood up a little more strongly to McCain who seems to have it in for him (If you remember the last debate, McCain kind of punked him.). As always, Romney showed himself a smart man with ready answers.

Bad: He lacks Giuliani's charisma and can't help but come off as too polished (what can he do: mess up his hair? curse?). His abortion change-of-heart still comes off as a little insincere despite having practiced it a million times.

Sometimes, Romney dodges questions for no reason. His Bible interpretation answer was unnecessarily vague. He did it again with the "gays in the military" question. He thinks gays should serve in the military, but only in times of peace. Huh?

McCain:

Good: McCain doesn't suffer fools. Like a man with nothing to lose, he regularly chastises his competitors. He did it to Paul on Iraq and Romney on torture. Both times, the attacks seemed more of a service to the nation than a political move. McCain got the better of his victims in both exchanges. His illegal alien answer took the high road and, again, came from a man who wants to solve problems more than win the presidency.

Bad: He seemed tired at times.

Thompson:

Good: After Giuliani attacked Romney on hiring illegal aliens, Thompson left Giuliani speechless by criticizing Giuliani's own hiring decisions (because of the Kerik scandal). His answers were all wonderful and correct.

Bad: Sorry, but Thompson came off as inconsequential. The energy level dipped noticeably whenever he spoke.

Paul:

Good: I generally agree with his drift on domestic issues.

Bad: If you notice, Paul never talks about specifics. Like a true ideologue, everything he says is general and philosophical.

"What about this program?"

Paul: "We shouldn't have programs."

"What about this country that wants nuclear weapons?"

Paul: "We shouldn't be in other countries."

As his rivals pointed out: If Paul thinks that Islamic radicals are just mad because we meddle in their affairs (go out of our way to defeat their tyrants), he's a naive fool.

Tancredo:

Good: Not too bad. Solid, smart answers. His Bible answer was a little forced and beside the point.

Bad: Nothing really. See Thompson.

Hunter:

Good: Hunter's best line was: "I don't apologize for America" (To avoid jingoistic extremism, we should when we do wrong, but the way.).

Bad: Hunter gave a rather bizarre answer to Hillary's planted "gays in the military" question. Instead of pointing out the impractical aspects of having gays in the military or deferring to generals or something, Hunter said that we shouldn't have gays in the military because most of the soldiers are conservative. This could be viewed as honest. The statement can also be used to paint conservatives as intolerant.

By nguirado ( Email ), 02:53:02 am, 795 words
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9 comments

Comment from: Troy Thompson [Visitor] Email
Ron Paul is not a naive fool! He's just not given enough time to fully explain his positions like the other "top tier" candidates do. I think the naive fool was McCain, who obviously didn't do enough research on Paul to to realize he is NOT an isolationist. Ron Paul has emphasized this many times throughout his campaign.

While the other candidates stumble over themselves attempting to smear each other, Ron Paul sits humbly at the podium while a revolution spreads like wildfire across this country.
11/29/07 @ 04:07
Comment from: John Kitchin [Visitor]
Your post about Ron Paul here shows your obvious naivety about the role the US has played in the Middle East over the last 50 years, for we have done exactly the opposite of "go out of our way to topple their tyrants". There is a reason why 15 of the 19 hijackers on 911 were Saudi's - because we have been instrumental in supporting an incredibly oppressive and tyrannical regime in that country in exchange for cheaper oil.

You really should read Michael Scheuer's book "Imperial Hubris". Scheuer was the head of the CIA's Bin Laden unit for 10-15 years, and he published the CIA's official policy paper (anonymously at the time, because he was still with the agency) detailing the concept of "blowback" and how US intervention in various nations in that region have contributed to the rise in resentment, hatred, and violence towards the US.

Ron Paul is the only candidate on either side who is actually looking at the issue of foreign policy from a logical and well-reasoned position based on conclusions drawn by very credible members of the intelligence community who have first-hand knowledge of the subject. The whole notion that they "hate us for our freedom" is just an idea promoted to garner support for our continued presence in the region, for what US citizen doesn't want to defend our freedom? It's war-hawk propaganda, plain and simple.
11/29/07 @ 07:29
Comment from: nguirado [Member] Email · http://www.nelsonguirado.com
Ron Paul did well last night, but he thinks that the only thing people in the Middle East want is to be left alone.
11/29/07 @ 07:33
Comment from: Jimmy Pettersen [Visitor] Email
As his rivals pointed out: If Paul thinks that Islamic radicals are just mad because we meddle in their affairs (go out of our way to defeat their tyrants), he's a naive fool.

Yes, it's surprising really that every expert who matters agree with Paul on the issue. But i'm sure they hate us because we're not muslim and because we're free. YES THAT MAKES SENSE YOU FUCKING RETARD!

Seriously, do the research or shut up, people like you who can't think for yourself destroy this country.
11/29/07 @ 08:39
Comment from: rsnlk [Visitor] Email · http://ninetymilesaway.blogspot.com
What about Huckabee? Did I miss it? The media's been playing him up, and I was wondering what your take on him was?
11/29/07 @ 10:48
Comment from: Robert [Visitor] Email · http://the26thparallel.blogspot.com
I'm also surprised you didn't mention Huckabee. He won the debate, IMO.
11/29/07 @ 17:18
Comment from: nguirado [Member] Email · http://www.nelsonguirado.com
You're right. I did forget Huckabee. Remember the time I finished it. He did OK, but he has the idea that government can always "help."
11/29/07 @ 19:33
Comment from: glavela [Visitor] Email
You are right, no comparison between the two debates. Comparing the two debates is impossible, no comparison. The Republicans looking not so much like Brittney Spears but rather a combination of Mike Tyson and Rambo. The Democrats look like Merryl Strip in comparison.
The GOP debate showed the candidates (with mild exception of McCain, and Paul) as a party of hatred, divisionism, and ruthlesness. It is sad to watch these individuals. Te GOP is a tired, angry and old party.
12/01/07 @ 16:24
Comment from: nguirado [Member] Email · http://www.nelsonguirado.com
Whom did they hate. As for divisiveness, the nation has two parties
12/01/07 @ 17:10

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