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I found this piece quite interesting and some levels, I reluctantly agree. However, as an African-American raised in NYC, I have a somewhat unique perspective on the question of whether Hispanics will vote for Obama. Growing up in NYC, my exposure to the Hispanic culture began very early; the impact of which afforded me the opportunity to learn and become fluent in the Spanish lanugage. Through learning Spanish, I was also introduced to the latin culture. I have found for instance that Hispanics in NYC more often than not tend to relate more to African-Americans than whites,, and their voting patterns also more unifying with those of African-Americans. Having said that, my fiance is from El Salvador and many of our friends are from both Central and South America, and there does not seem to be this great division between Blacks and Hispanics as is usually played out in the media. In fact, I feel that the media tends to fuel the belief that the two cultures are more at odds with one another than they are unified. Certainly, the race to "Super Tuesday" will reveal many things about the two culture's ability to jointly support a candidate of color.

I found this piece quite interesting and some levels, I reluctantly agree. However, as an African-American raised in NYC, I have a somewhat unique perspective on the question of whether Hispanics will vote for Obama. Growing up in NYC, my exposure to the Hispanic culture began very early; the impact of which afforded me the opportunity to learn and become fluent in the Spanish lanugage. Through learning Spanish, I was also introduced to the latin culture. I have found for instance that Hispanics in NYC more often than not tend to relate more to African-Americans than whites,, and their voting patterns also more unifying with those of African-Americans. Having said that, my fiance is from El Salvador and many of our friends are from both Central and South America, and there does not seem to be this great division between Blacks and Hispanics as is usually played out in the media. In fact, I feel that the media tends to fuel the belief that the two cultures are more at odds with one another than they are unified. Certainly, the race to "Super Tuesday" will reveal many things about the two culture's ability to jointly support a candidate of color.

So you are saying that Hispanics are just as or more racist than whites. If so, that is a shame. We are all in the same boat. Why use race to determine who you will vote for.

In most cases, cultures are used by white candidates to get votes. I haven't heard Hillary speak of Hispanics or Latinos until she got to Nevada. Hispanics do live in Iowa and NH and S.C.

Oh, but here numbers are small there, so she did not have to pay much attention to them.

The younger generations are more Americanized and, therefore, less racist.

I am Hispanic: Mexican-American to be specific.
Honestly, in Latin American countries, race does not play such a big role as in the United States. That is something that American people do not understand. Over here, every single standardized test that students in K-12 take or any application that one fills out asks you to indicate your race [yes I know we are allowed to choose decline to state, but it's just an example.]

You will never be asked that question in any Mexican document or application.
In countries like Mexico, race doesn't matter in that sense. If you are darker than me, and I'm whiter, but we both speak Spanish and go to the same school, we can consider ourselves equal.
Yes, there is some sort of discrimination against certain groups of people, but it is waaaay less remarkable than in the U.S.
The minority group that is most commonly discriminated against is the indigenous group, and that's mainly because of language differences [A Mexican person who sees an indigenous person who speaks Nahuatl or Mixteco or Zapoteco reasons something like this: Oh, wait a minute, he/she doesn't even speak Spanish! Why should he be called Mexican like me? we're not equal]

So anyway... Brown and white Hispanics may identify themselves with Black Hispanics. However, we do not idenfify ourselves with African-Americans. Why?
Well, first of all. Just think about it. We are two different cultures, even though we are both minority groups, we do not even speak the same language. African-American people do not have to go through the language barrier issue that we go through. And that is one of the main reasons that although Hispanics already outnumbered the African American population in the U.S, they have not been assimilated into white neighborhoods, per say, as quickly as African Americans have. It's all about culture.

Anyway, it is true that Hispanics may have not voted for Obama in part because of the stereotypes. A lot of Hispanics are white, a lot of Hispanics are black, but no Hispanic is African-American.

Hey, blame it on the media!

Plus, Hispanic women may sympathize with Hillary because of the whole cheating scandal between her husband and monica lewinsky in the 90s. In Hispanic countries, LOTS of Hispanic women from like the 1950-1970 generation have traditionally been cheated by their husbands, and also traditionally have not opted to divorce: for the good of their children. So hispanic women do identify with hillary somewhat in this way.

First, if Mexicans are less racist than whites, why are whites much more likely to vote for a black man than Mexicans? Do they feel closer to whites than whites themselves?

Racism is alive an well in Latin America and those negative attitudes regarding blacks in their own culture travels with Latinos as they come to the US and mingle with African Americans. For an insightful look at Latino racism, check out the series of 5 articles on the status of Afro-Latin Americans published recently by the Miami Herald http://www.miamiherald.com/multimedia/news/afrolatin/index.html

In my opinion, Hispanics who won't vote for Obama are very likely seeing through this cultural lense in addition to other issues. In the coverage I've seen, no one is addressing this and therefore the news slant is seen as only about competition for resources between African Americans and Latinos in poor communities as the reason for the antipathy of Latinos toward blacks. Obama has an up-hill battle in the fight against Latino racim vs. white American racism because Latin Americans really won't acknowledge their racism...for them its simply classism since they tend to see lower class status as associated with darker skin.

Maybe. That issue can be settled by looking at how male Hispanics voted.

I think Mexicans and Blacks in America are fighting for the same jobs. If Blacks get a position as president first, they're group will be behind. They want it first. I think thats why Obama struggled with ALL the minority votes other than the Black vote. I think any minority candidate would experience the same downfall.

However, I think Blacks, like Whites are extremely Americanized. Skin color aside, the two are virtually the same. Culturewise... The changes in behavior, views, and language occur on the level of Class, Not Race.

Other minority groups have to mix in there a little bit more to understand.

It is true to some degree that Mexicans and Blacks in America are fighting for the same jobs...though I think many African Americans would not take the jobs that many newly immigrated Mexicans would take because of the low status and pay. The exception to a huge degree is in the construction industry where there is a great deal of competition between Hispanic and Black males, with Black males seeing Hispanics (regardless of immigration status) as lowering wages and taking the blue-collar jobs for which they see themselves as most qualified.

35yr old Black Female - Wow, really interesting thoughts. I was born in NJ (6yrs); I grew up in San Diego (also 6yrs), and my 2nd family, where I spent many days & nights was Mexican. I'm now in Atlanta (since 84') and many/most of my real est. clients are Latino.

I thought the Nevada outcome happened b/c the Culinary Union didn't consult ENOUGH with their people b/f they announced the endorsement, which backfired resulting in the backlash against Obama. I didn't, however, really feel internally that racism played a big part.

I (naively) never thought that a caste system was all that popular within the Latino community; in such a noticeable way that you've described. Castes (light vs. dark) are pretty evident from time to time in the black community, but more of a fad/trend between us at different times, which is why we jokingly say "dark-skinned brothers, or light-skinned brothers are IN right now . . ." etc. But it's generally not at such a negative level as what you're describing in the Latino community.

I personally think that Latinos among MANY others accepted the misconception of Barack being less experienced then Hillary. But within the next week (with enough phone calling & campaigning) maybe Barack's true experience will become evident, and I think that will make a BIG difference. I'm still finding a lot of folks that aren't aware that he's actually been an appointed official 3yrs longer than Hillary.

Your blog is very interesting, Keep the same title for your future updates. Lydia, East Point, GA for Obama.

I reject this argument. This isn't a landslide constituency for Clinton. 66% for Clinton, 33% for Obama? And we're supposed to believe that Latinos are racist? And why are Asians coming out more for Clinton?

These race-charged questions that blanket the entire group with a charge of racism is offensive. I am mixed-race. I claim my Asian heritage. I supported Barack Obama with my time and money. My girlfriend is Mexican and her entire family caucused for Barack here in Nevada. My Japanese grandmother caucused for Barack. So now we are all racist because our respective racial groups broke a certain way?

Excuse me, but I do not agree. Racism still exists, but it is not the predominate force in our country. Not anymore. Thank God.

The reason I am so passionate and enthusiastic about my Senator, Barack Obama is because I believe in my heart, mind and soul that he is the BEST candidate, presently, to bring the American people together, unify our country, work with Republicans, Democrats and Independents, as well as represent America to the rest of the world. It is time to turn the page in history and set a new tone in Washington, D.C. and the way our government plays a role in our lives.

Obama is the LONGEST elected official in the democratic primary, serving for 11 years in the state and federal senate. He believes that education is an investment in our future and is willing to make community colleges free for our citizens. Obama believes the government should impose fines on corporations that pollute greenhouse gases, then using that money to provide "green" or environmental friendly jobs to urban and rural communities. This plan is the best long-range plan to boost our nation's economy, create jobs and discover energy alternatives.

Obama also supports Veterans Housing, physical and mental health care for veterans. He believes in diplomacy, before quickly moving to war without all the facts. Obama was against the war in Iraq when it was unpopular. Obama is for the working and middle-class family. He will put $4,000 towards each college student's first year tuition. These are some of the MANY reasons I support Sen. Obama.

I was a long supporter of the Clintons and believe Hillary could do the job. But, what our country needs right now is a unifier, who can build relationships across party lines, without the baggage of the past, special interests groups, etc... Furthermore, I am shocked at the campaign of the Clintons. They are turning off voters.

HRC did NOT have top level security clearance as first lady in the white house. She could not sit in on national security meetings, nor did she get a daily intelligence report. She cannot claim that experience. Obama has THE best opportunity to beat a republican. The GOP is just waiting to pounce on HRC if she won the nomination.

We need new ideas, new faces, a fresh breath back into the DNC.

Let move forward and not take us back to an old era.

IT IS TIME TO TURN THE PAGE!!!

Thank you for th kind words. I'm just theorizing. It could be for the reasons I've stated. The "caste" system is very real, but most Mexicans don't mind it.

I am glad someone took the time to explore this issue. I am of mixed heritage my father is Cuban and my mother is African American and I am married to a Mexican woman. Yes Mexicans are very racist they just have no means to act on the racist views that they have. This country was built on the backs of minorites. Newly immagrated mexicans as well as the ones born here should understand the right to vote and work and every other right they take for granted some black person died so they could have these rights. CA Prop 187 was not that long ago but i guess they forgot? May 5 2007 LAPD beat a bunch of innocent Mexican people in McAuthur Park. As Blacks we are the only race that can relate to the issues that they have and we have, mexicans need to stop dreaming they are white because if a race riot broke out tommorow wether they are light dark or somewhere in between they are Mexican and the same for blacks, so at the end the day we need to help each other not seperate ourselves by race but unite by circumstance.

lets cut the sh**! its not all hispanics its stupid mexican wet backs!! thats who have the problem. and yes! it is the young brazzers, not just the old fu***** who damn near killed there self crossin a fu**** dessert, just to get here and get on welfare. i say f*** wet backs!!!

I edited your comment. If they're "wetbacks," they wouldn't be voting, would they?

The main difference between whites and minorities is that whites are socialized to avoid saying racist things, but at the same time, they have racist thoughts (I will admit that my first instinct is not a pretty one - and I went to a mostly black high school). There is a test out of Harvard of image associations - the vast majority of people in America have negative associations with blacks.

While overt racism is obviously a bad response, we (whites) really haven't been able to deal with it. We KNOW our instincts are racist, but is overreacting in the opposite direction by electing a clearly under-qualified flyweight that has lowered the level of political discourse to something akin to the little engine that could really the appropriate response?

I think there are some other important reasons that have been ignored as well. Why do Hispanic voters not vote for Obama? Latin American family structures are more open to matriarchs than the American family. Latin American countries have had female presidents before. Perhaps the real issue is that whites are sexist (actually that is almost certainly the case for my mom - who incidentally is also kind of a racist, but prefers Obama to Clinton).

Moreover, Hillary Clinton has done work with the Hispanic community before. Bill appointed lots of Hispanics to public office - and those same people give the Clinton campaign connections and organizers in the Hispanic community. While Clinton and Obama have very similar platforms, Obama does not run on the issues and tends to sound bland platitudes. Clinton, on the other hand, has a campaign focused on bread and butter issues like healthcare, which is why she tends to appeal to working class voters (among them, many immigrants).

If you want redemption and self-actualization, like the pampered youth of America, Obama is a lock. If you actually have trouble getting food on the table, surely you can be forgiven for avoiding declarations of "yes we can".

khadafi, go watch Lou Dobbs or something. Immigrants, legal and illegal work a hell of a lot harder than you, commit less crime than Americans, and are model citizens. I wish we could deport YOU.

This is the real reason why a lot of Hispanics won't vote for him: Obama gives the impression of being one of those black snobs who mainly hangs out with white friends because they have money to offer him and he feels they give him prestige. He fully embraces the racist black voters who just want to see a black president, and tries to sound like Martin Luther King Jr. when he sells dreams to black folks and rakes in the white-guilt voters, then he sounds totally different when he talks to white folks interviewing him. It's easy to see by his snobbish attitude toward Hispanics now that he will try to turn them and other non-black minorities into second class citizens if he became president. He sells himself as a mythical flawless hero who came out of nowhere, and a lot of Hispanic voters simply ain't falling for it as easily as other naive folks.

To Jason Garcia -- what do you know about Martin Luther King Jr? He sold dreams? He raked in white-guilt? You are obviously ignorant, and exactly the racist kind of person who wouldn't vote for Obama, not because you actually considered his qualifications but because he is black and you can't vote for a black person.

Your kind sees him as a 'black snob' because you can't use stereotypical (uneducated, poor worker, etc.) reasons to look down on him. You are angry because your background teaches you that the whiter the better, the darker, the lower. So you believe that as a 'latino' you should be given social preference above a black person -- as you would find in most Latin American countries.

A sad fact is that many hispanic people (except that black hispanics) don't notice and don't bother to learn history to understand someone like Martin Luther King, Jr. and the struggle through slavery to now, so you resent any mention of it, and can't quite figure out how it created the society that exists today.

Anyway, as Celia said " AZUCAR NEGRA"

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All I have to say is wow. What I am reading just
makes me sick. Jason Garcia, you are a sad man.
I am a 30 year old black female. One of my good
friends is from Purtorico. Even though most of her
friends are black I see how she kisses up to
white people. I think it is sad to see a person
put down other people just to make themselves
feel better. It is sad people like Jason Garcia
who wish they were white so bad that they are
willing to agree with what ever a white person
says to fit it. Hispanic people you are not
white and white people will never accept your
brown and black buts as white. Black people
have never done anything to hurt white or
hispanic people yet you all hate us so. Why?
I know from your words Jason that it is jealosy.
Don't buy into it that you all as a race are
better than any other race. one man can be better
than one man but one man can never be better
than an entire race. Just get over this race thing
and vote for who you think is best. I think Obama
would be good for this country because all we have
ever had were old as* white men in office who
care about the rich. Lets work together to try
something different. Obama is a person who has
ties with allot of different kinds of people. that
alone tells me he can work with other countries
to get things done. Can you people stop the hateing
black people so much. I wonder will it be worth
all of the hate when one day you wake up in hell
and the devil tells you, you are in hell because
you carried so much hate in your heart for another
human being.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=545_1203196973

Obama is FOOLING voters with his fainting spells. Pass this on. Especially to the voters in the Southwest. People out here aren't politically-inclined as much and they will buy this foolish man's rhetoric.

This is BS.

!!!GO HILLARY 2008!

WOW. I guess I was wrong about Mexicans being
decent intelligent people. They are truly ignorant.
This is truly distressing news.

It's strange that whites (those guilty) have just about the same racist attitude towards hispanics as they do blacks. Are Hispanics aware of this? Hispanics are basically forced to share the same ghettos with blacks, they share in our music, our styles and even down to our language (slang). Yet, they pride themselves on inwardly feeling they are white (disguised as better). They are guilty of copying or adopting more of our (blacks) culture then we are of theirs. I perrsonally have nothing against hispanics or their culture. However, what they need to realize is most whites in the good ole US of A consider them just as much niggers as they do us. Back in the day they would lynch a hispanic just as quick as a black, simply because they aren't white. Hispanics need a reality check. They are just as marginalized and despised as blacks are, maybe even worse. It seems Hispanics what to copy black culture, while at the same time idenity themselves with white priviledge? I guess for some, delusions are as necessary as air. On a deeper understanding, taking into consideration our (turblulent) history in this country under white rule, I can't blame Hispanics to a certain degree. And I'll end this with a big "BUT..."

I actually don't think Hispanics have had it nearly as bad as blacks. I don't think lynching was ever an issue with Hispanics.

I am a mostly Americanized Latina, 22 years old living in the northeast and well...I just don't think that hispanics and/or latinos are voting based on the color of skin.

I think and hope it is more than that. Is there racism in the hispanic/latino culture, yes, but it's here in the US as well. You may find it wherever you go. Not always thankgoodness.

I am voting for Hillary due to her experience and her background. I'm sorry but Senator Obama has no experience!!! He barely voted for anything while in office...he's too young as well. So I guess I am judging him but due to his age and inexperience. And please, spare me the whole "Well JFK was young and blah blah" crap. I don't buy it.

I also find it very ridiculous that Barak Obama accepted money from the Republican party for his campaign. That just doesn't sit well with me.

And his speeches? Please. He is selling everyone words. He has dreams he declares, well how exactly are you going to go about turning those dreams into reality?

Hillary has solutions to problems.

I don't want to hear about dreams. There are real problems. I want real answers.

GO HILLARY!!!

:)

I have to say that I found this commentary to be extremely short-sighted and overly generalized. I am a biracial woman (African American and White) who has always been mistaken for Hispanic (as well as South Asian). Nonetheless, my family is multiracial and I even have a Latino step-family. My experience of living in White, Black and Latino contexts has been one in which the Latino and Black community have typically been embracing and supportive of each other's similarities... While I am not saying there aren't problematic circumstances (I have sometimes found that Latinos have been surprised - not necessarily in a positive way - to discover I am Black), I feel that they fall into a different context. There is an assumption of inferiority in Blackness by some Latinos, but overall I have found the Latino community to unite on important issues with the Black community.

I found the article to be problematic because it groups all Latinos as being the same in their world-view and their culture, when we know that Latinos come from almost every part of the globe, with cultures differently shaped by colonization. Also, it's making a strong correlation between racism and voting based on one small example! I am not saying that there isn't a symptom of needing to distinguish from "Blackness" in this country (which typically is perpetuated by Latino and Black immigrants who want to escape what they find to be a negative casting), but I think there would need to be a lot more substantiation before we could make the claims present in this commentary.

Black people discriminate Hispanics just as whites discriminate blacks. Cubans discriminate all Central Americans and blacks. Haitians, discriminate hispanics and whites. Argentinians discriminate all others in South America and Cubans. Puerto Ricans discriminate people from Central America. Italians discriminate everybody same as the jewish. The Brittons, the spaniards and the French discriminated all the indians, Do I need to list all the races? Discrimination is in the blood. Talking about it makes no sense.

WOW!!!!It's very sad to read all those coments about hispanics, most of you are wrong about us, I'm going to vote for Hilary because i think she has more experience than Obama and not because she is white, also for those who don't know about our race there is no hispanic race, our race is called white, and I'm very proud of being hispanic.

I did distinguish. Latinos of Indian-white heritage are more unaccepting of blacks than Black-white Hispanics like Cubans or Puerto Ricans.

This is a very interesting article about the dynamics of racial issues as they play out in US, South America, Mexico, and all the other Latin American nations. It is informative and all progressive and positive people ought to read it many times. I am going to be reading it many times too. Thanks, you have opened my eyes.

The reason that many Hispanics are voting for Hillary is that many of us are keenly aware of lingering racism and bigotry in America. After all, we are the despised minority group of the moment. Whites tend to dismiss racism as something that is rare or nonexistent. If you haven't experienced bigotry first hand, you can easily imagine that America is beyond racism. If, however, you are part of a minority group you can readily attest to the fact that America is far from color blind. Seventy-five percent of America is white and a certain percentage of those people will not embrace the idea of having an African-American President. Many Hispanics understand that there are certain regions in this country that will not see beyond Obama's skin color. In the final analysis, many Hispanics just don't believe Obama can win.

I would like to say to Maria above, that what if?
What if you have a african american father and
an a hispanic mother, speaking fluent spanish,as well english, being raised more so around your african american heritage, not to mention spending ample amount of time with your hispanic relative, are you not considered to be hispanic. I stand to be corrected, but you made statement, and I quote:(Anyway, it is true that Hispanics may have not voted for Obama in part because of the stereotypes. A lot of Hispanics are white, a lot of Hispanics are black, but no Hispanic is African-
American.)this can't be true if the statement I made above is true. Do you not consider these people hispanics just because they have african american blood in there system. These people are relative of mines, and of yours. Please educate yourself, before you past judgement on cultures. As for Jason, would you feel the same if one of your own relatives in culture was running for President? Would the Hispanic Culture vote for a Hispanic if one was running for President? It sounds to me that you're just hating that this man came to the table with just as much as anyone else, and is giving the Clintons or anyone else a run for their money, literally. Cast your vote because you believe in the impossible, you believe in change, you believe a person will make a difference, just don't vote if you have hate in your heart for the color of a man or woman skin, because you may very well miss out on something. I'm a Veteran, and I listen very well to what's in store for us, as well as the Health care issue, and the war in Iraq,due to my child being there. Let's wake up and take time out to listen to the words coming out of some of these Candidates mouth.

I'm an African American males. I live in the DFW area. My experience has been that most Mexican American people are racist. If they are placed in positions of authority, they will abuse their authority and blatantly discriminate against African Americans if they are not challenged.
But it is important to make some distinctions in attitudes. Some are truly ignorant and uneducated about interpersonal relationships and will discriminate agaiinst African Americans every chance they get. Others try to relate, but maintain an air of smugness and arrogance about themselves. I call it the "I think I'm white" complex. Still others get along to come along. They understand that they must be willing to work with everybody if they hope to learn a trade, conduct business, or attain some other accomplishment they hope to acheive.
I have been associated with each of these groups in some form or another, plus I have family members by marriage who are Hispanics.
I have learned not to take it personally and immediately address any inconsiderations by them. But to address the question:
Most Hispanics will not vote for OBAMA because of his race.

"I feel that the media tends to fuel the belief that the two cultures are more at odds with one another than they are unified." - George

George, that could be said about any supposed "cultural" divides portrayed in the media...race, gender, religion...most of us aren't so far apart as the media and politicians would like us to be!

Some hispanics prefer white over african americans, because some of them think they are white. Hispanics need to wake up and smell the coffee and realize whites treat them in some cases just like they do the african americans.

All these comments and nobody, not even the blogger, mentions the obvious: if voting patterns as evidence of racial bias or racism, clearly the most racist people are the blacks! They are voting 80% for Obama; no other group is voting anywhere near that kind of block. If the whites all voted that way you KNOW there would be howls of racism.

The same thing happened in the Houston mayor's race 10 years ago: the white candidate got 55% of the white vote and 58% of the hispanic vote, and the black candidate got 90% of the black vote but lost. Of course the black candidate claimed it was because Houston was still too racist to vote for a black mayor! There was only one group voting purely on race! The same is happening here--why didn't you mention it?

Assuming that blacks prefer to see a black president. I wanted to examine why Hispanics would prefer to see a white president more than white people would.

Willie Lynch letter: The Making of a Slave
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This speech was delivered by Willie Lynch on the bank of the James River in the colony of Virginia in 1712. Lynch was a British slave owner in the West Indies. He was invited to the colony of Virginia in 1712 to teach his methods to slave owners there. The term “lynching” is derived from his last name.

[beginning of the Willie Lynch Letter]

Greetings,

Gentlemen. I greet you here on the bank of the James River in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and twelve. First, I shall thank you, the gentlemen of the Colony of Virginia, for bringing me here. I am here to help you solve some of your problems with slaves. Your invitation reached me on my modest plantation in the West Indies, where I have experimented with some of the newest, and still the oldest, methods for control of slaves. Ancient Rome would envy us if my program is implemented. As our boat sailed south on the James River, named for our illustrious King, whose version of the Bible we cherish, I saw enough to know that your problem is not unique. While Rome used cords of wood as crosses for standing human bodies along its highways in great numbers, you are here using the tree and the rope on occasions. I caught the whiff of a dead slave hanging from a tree, a couple miles back. You are not only losing valuable stock by hangings, you are having uprisings, slaves are running away, your crops are sometimes left in the fields too long for maximum profit, you suffer occasional fires, your animals are killed. Gentlemen, you know what your problems are; I do not need to elaborate. I am not here to enumerate your problems, I am here to introduce you to a method of solving them. In my bag here, I HAVE A FULL PROOF METHOD FOR CONTROLLING YOUR BLACK SLAVES. I guarantee every one of you that, if installed correctly, IT WILL CONTROL THE SLAVES FOR AT LEAST 300 HUNDREDS YEARS. My method is simple. Any member of your family or your overseer can use it. I HAVE OUTLINED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENCES AMONG THE SLAVES; AND I TAKE THESE DIFFERENCES AND MAKE THEM BIGGER. I USE FEAR, DISTRUST AND ENVY FOR CONTROL PURPOSES. These methods have worked on my modest plantation in the West Indies and it will work throughout the South. Take this simple little list of differences and think about them. On top of my list is “AGE,” but it’s there only because it starts with an “a.” The second is “COLOR” or shade. There is INTELLIGENCE, SIZE, SEX, SIZES OF PLANTATIONS, STATUS on plantations, ATTITUDE of owners, whether the slaves live in the valley, on a hill, East, West, North, South, have fine hair, course hair, or is tall or short. Now that you have a list of differences, I shall give you an outline of action, but before that, I shall assure you that DISTRUST IS STRONGER THAN TRUST AND ENVY STRONGER THAN ADULATION, RESPECT OR ADMIRATION. The Black slaves after receiving this indoctrination shall carry on and will become self-refueling and self-generating for HUNDREDS of years, maybe THOUSANDS. Don’t forget, you must pitch the OLD black male vs. the YOUNG black male, and the YOUNG black male against the OLD black male. You must use the DARK skin slaves vs. the LIGHT skin slaves, and the LIGHT skin slaves vs. the DARK skin slaves. You must use the FEMALE vs. the MALE, and the MALE vs. the FEMALE. You must also have white servants and overseers [who] distrust all Blacks. But it is NECESSARY THAT YOUR SLAVES TRUST AND DEPEND ON US. THEY MUST LOVE, RESPECT AND TRUST ONLY US. Gentlemen, these kits are your keys to control. Use them. Have your wives and children use them, never miss an opportunity. IF USED INTENSELY FOR ONE YEAR, THE SLAVES THEMSELVES WILL REMAIN PERPETUALLY DISTRUSTFUL. Thank you gentlemen.”

LET’S MAKE A SLAVE

It was the interest and business of slave holders to study human nature, and the slave nature in particular, with a view to practical results. I and many of them attained astonishing proficiency in this direction. They had to deal not with earth, wood and stone, but with men and, by every regard, they had for their own safety and prosperity they needed to know the material on which they were to work, conscious of the injustice and wrong they were every hour perpetuating and knowing what they themselves would do. Were they the victims of such wrongs? They were constantly looking for the first signs of the dreaded retribution. They watched therefore with skilled and practiced eyes, and learned to read with great accuracy, the state of mind and heart of the slave, through his sable face. Unusual sobriety, apparent abstractions, sullenness and indifference indeed, any mood out of the common was afforded ground for suspicion and inquiry. Frederick Douglas LET’S MAKE A SLAVE is a study of the scientific process of man-breaking and slave-making. It describes the rationale and results of the Anglo Saxons’ ideas and methods of insuring the master/slave relationship. LET’S MAKE A SLAVE “The Original and Development of a Social Being Called ‘The Negro.’” Let us make a slave. What do we need? First of all, we need a black nigger man, a pregnant nigger woman and her baby nigger boy. Second, we will use the same basic principle that we use in breaking a horse, combined with some more sustaining factors. What we do with horses is that we break them from one form of life to another; that is, we reduce them from their natural state in nature. Whereas nature provides them with the natural capacity to take care of their offspring, we break that natural string of independence from them and thereby create a dependency status, so that we may be able to get from them useful production for our business and pleasure.

CARDINAL PRINCIPLES FOR MAKING A NEGRO

For fear that our future generations may not understand the principles of breaking both of the beast together, the nigger and the horse. We understand that short range planning economics results in periodic economic chaos; so that to avoid turmoil in the economy, it requires us to have breadth and depth in long range comprehensive planning, articulating both skill sharp perceptions. We lay down the following principles for long range comprehensive economic planning. Both horse and niggers [are] no good to the economy in the wild or natural state. Both must be BROKEN and TIED together for orderly production. For orderly future, special and particular attention must be paid to the FEMALE and the YOUNGEST offspring. Both must be CROSSBRED to produce a variety and division of labor. Both must be taught to respond to a peculiar new LANGUAGE. Psychological and physical instruction of CONTAINMENT must be created for both. We hold the six cardinal principles as truth to be self-evident, based upon following the discourse concerning the economics of breaking and tying the horse and the nigger together, all inclusive of the six principles laid down above. NOTE: Neither principle alone will suffice for good economics. All principles must be employed for orderly good of the nation. Accordingly, both a wild horse and a wild or natur[al] nigger is dangerous even if captured, for they will have the tendency to seek their customary freedom and, in doing so, might kill you in your sleep. You cannot rest. They sleep while you are awake, and are awake while you are asleep. They are DANGEROUS near the family house and it requires too much labor to watch them away from the house. Above all, you cannot get them to work in this natural state. Hence, both the horse and the nigger must be broken; that is breaking them from one form of mental life to another. KEEP THE BODY, TAKE THE MIND! In other words, break the will to resist. Now the breaking process is the same for both the horse and the nigger, only slightly varying in degrees. But, as we said before, there is an art in long range economic planning. YOU MUST KEEP YOUR EYE AND THOUGHTS ON THE FEMALE and the OFFSPRING of the horse and the nigger. A brief discourse in offspring development will shed light on the key to sound economic principles. Pay little attention to the generation of original breaking, but CONCENTRATE ON FUTURE GENERATION. Therefore, if you break the FEMALE mother, she will BREAK the offspring in its early years of development; and when the offspring is old enough to work, she will deliver it up to you, for her normal female protective tendencies will have been lost in the original breaking process. For example, take the case of the wild stud horse, a female horse and an already infant horse and compare the breaking process with two captured nigger males in their natural state, a pregnant nigger woman with her infant offspring. Take the stud horse, break him for limited containment. Completely break the female horse until she becomes very gentle, whereas you or anybody can ride her in her comfort. Breed the mare and the stud until you have the desired offspring. Then, you can turn the stud to freedom until you need him again. Train the female horse whereby she will eat out of your hand, and she will in turn train the infant horse to eat out of your hand, also. When it comes to breaking the uncivilized nigger, use the same process, but vary the degree and step up the pressure, so as to do a complete reversal of the mind. Take the meanest and most restless nigger, strip him of his clothes in front of the remaining male niggers, the female, and the nigger infant, tar and feather him, tie each leg to a different horse faced in opposite directions, set him afire and beat both horses to pull him apart in front of the remaining niggers. The next step is to take a bullwhip and beat the remaining nigger males to the point of death, in front of the female and the infant. Don’t kill him, but PUT THE FEAR OF GOD IN HIM, for he can be useful for future breeding.

THE BREAKING PROCESS OF THE AFRICAN WOMAN

Take the female and run a series of tests on her to see if she will submit to your desires willingly. Test her in every way, because she is the most important factor for good economics. If she shows any sign of resistance in submitting completely to your will, do not hesitate to use the bullwhip on her to extract that last bit of [b----] out of her. Take care not to kill her, for in doing so, you spoil good economics. When in complete submission, she will train her offsprings in the early years to submit to labor when they become of age. Understanding is the best thing. Therefore, we shall go deeper into this area of the subject matter concerning what we have produced here in this breaking process of the female nigger. We have reversed the relationship; in her natural uncivilized state, she would have a strong dependency on the uncivilized nigger male, and she would have a limited protective tendency toward her independent male offspring and would raise male offsprings to be dependent like her. Nature had provided for this type of balance. We reversed nature by burning and pulling a civilized nigger apart and bullwhipping the other to the point of death, all in her presence. By her being left alone, unprotected, with the MALE IMAGE DESTROYED, the ordeal caused her to move from her psychologically dependent state to a frozen, independent state. In this frozen, psychological state of independence, she will raise her MALE and female offspring in reversed roles. For FEAR of the young male’s life, she will psychologically train him to be MENTALLY WEAK and DEPENDENT, but PHYSICALLY STRONG. Because she has become psychologically independent, she will train her FEMALE offsprings to be psychologically independent. What have you got? You’ve got the nigger WOMAN OUT FRONT AND THE nigger MAN BEHIND AND SCARED. This is a perfect situation of sound sleep and economics. Before the breaking process, we had to be alertly on guard at all times. Now, we can sleep soundly, for out of frozen fear his woman stands guard for us. He cannot get past her early slave-molding process. He is a good tool, now ready to be tied to the horse at a tender age. By the time a nigger boy reaches the age of sixteen, he is soundly broken in and ready for a long life of sound and efficient work and the reproduction of a unit of good labor force. Continually through the breaking of uncivilized savage niggers, by throwing the nigger female savage into a frozen psychological state of independence, by killing the protective male image, and by creating a submissive dependent mind of the nigger male slave, we have created an orbiting cycle that turns on its own axis forever, unless a phenomenon occurs and re-shifts the position of the male and female slaves. We show what we mean by example. Take the case of the two economic slave units and examine them close.

THE NEGRO MARRIAGE

We breed two nigger males with two nigger females. Then, we take the nigger male away from them and keep them moving and working. Say one nigger female bears a nigger female and the other bears a nigger male; both nigger females—being without influence of the nigger male image, frozen with a independent psychology—will raise their offspring into reverse positions. The one with the female offspring will teach her to be like herself, independent and negotiable (we negotiate with her, through her, by her, negotiates her at will). The one with the nigger male offspring, she being frozen subconscious fear for his life, will raise him to be mentally dependent and weak, but physically strong; in other words, body over mind. Now, in a few years when these two offsprings become fertile for early reproduction, we will mate and breed them and continue the cycle. That is good, sound and long range comprehensive planning.

WARNING: POSSIBLE INTERLOPING NEGATIVES

Earlier, we talked about the non-economic good of the horse and the nigger in their wild or natural state; we talked out the principle of breaking and tying them together for orderly production. Furthermore, we talked about paying particular attention to the female savage and her offspring for orderly future planning, then more recently we stated that, by reversing the positions of the male and female savages, we created an orbiting cycle that turns on its own axis forever unless a phenomenon occurred and reshifts positions of the male and female savages. Our experts warned us about the possibility of this phenomenon occurring, for they say that the mind has a strong drive to correct and re-correct itself over a period of time if it can touch some substantial original historical base; and they advised us that the best way to deal with the phenomenon is to shave off the brute’s mental history and create a multiplicity of phenomena of illusions, so that each illusion will twirl in its own orbit, something similar to floating balls in a vacuum. This creation of multiplicity of phenomena of illusions entails the principle of crossbreeding the nigger and the horse as we stated above, the purpose of which is to create a diversified division of labor; thereby creating different levels of labor and different values of illusion at each connecting level of labor. The results of which is the severance of the points of original beginnings for each sphere illusion. Since we feel that the subject matter may get more complicated as we proceed in laying down our economic plan concerning the purpose, reason and effect of crossbreeding horses and niggers, we shall lay down the following definition terms for future generations. Orbiting cycle means a thing turning in a given path. Axis means upon which or around which a body turns. Phenomenon means something beyond ordinary conception and inspires awe and wonder. Multiplicity means a great number. Means a globe. Crossbreeding a horse means taking a horse and breeding it with an ass and you get a dumb, backward, ass long-headed mule that is not reproductive nor productive by itself. Crossbreeding niggers mean taking so many drops of good white blood and putting them into as many nigger women as possible, varying the drops by the various tone that you want, and then letting them breed with each other until another circle of color appears as you desire. What this means is this: Put the niggers and the horse in a breeding pot, mix some asses and some good white blood and what do you get? You got a multiplicity of colors of ass backward, unusual niggers, running, tied to backward ass long-headed mules, the one productive of itself, the other sterile. (The one constant, the other dying, we keep the nigger constant for we may replace the mules for another tool) both mule and nigger tied to each other, neither knowing where the other came from and neither productive for itself, nor without each other.

CONTROLLED LANGUAGE

Crossbreeding completed, for further severance from their original beginning, WE MUST COMPLETELY ANNIHILATE THE MOTHER TONGUE of both the new nigger and the new mule, and institute a new language that involves the new life’s work of both. You know language is a peculiar institution. It leads to the heart of a people. The more a foreigner knows about the language of another country the more he is able to move through all levels of that society. Therefore, if the foreigner is an enemy of the country, to the extent that he knows the body of the language, to that extent is the country vulnerable to attack or invasion of a foreign culture. For example, if you take a slave, if you teach him all about your language, he will know all your secrets, and he is then no more a slave, for you can’t fool him any longer, and BEING A FOOL IS ONE OF THE BASIC INGREDIENTS OF ANY INCIDENTS TO THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SLAVERY SYSTEM. For example, if you told a slave that he must perform in getting out “our crops” and he knows the language well, he would know that “our crops” didn’t mean “our crops” and the slavery system would break down, for he would relate on the basis of what “our crops” really meant. So you have to be careful in setting up the new language; for the slaves would soon be in your house, talking to you as “man to man” and that is death to our economic system. In addition, the definitions of words or terms are only a minute part of the process. Values are created and transported by communication through the body of the language. A total society has many interconnected value systems. All the values in the society have bridges of language to connect them for orderly working in the society. But for these language bridges, these many value systems would sharply clash and cause internal strife or civil war, the degree of the conflict being determined by the magnitude of the issues or relative opposing strength in whatever form. For example, if you put a slave in a hog pen and train him to live there and incorporate in him to value it as a way of life completely, the biggest problem you would have out of him is that he would worry you about provisions to keep the hog pen clean, or the same hog pen and make a slip and incorporate something in his language whereby he comes to value a house more than he does his hog pen, you got a problem. He will soon be in your house.

Additional Note: “Henty Berry, speaking in the Virginia House of Delegates in 1832, described the situation as it existed in many parts of the South at this time: “We have, as far as possible, closed every avenue by which light may enter their (the slaves) minds. If we could extinguish the capacity to see the light, our work would be complete; they would then be on a level with the beasts of the field and we should be safe. I am not certain that we would not do it, if we could find out the process and that on the plea of necessity.” From Brown America, The story of a New Race by Edwin R. Embree. 1931 The Viking Press.


In a lot of Hispanic cultures, the lighter ones have played out this racism towards the darker ones. I must say one thing.

I live outside of Los Angeles, and I have found that the educated Hispanics for the most part do not play out racism. It's those who occupy the lowest rung.

My feeling is who cares if Hispanics don't vote for Obama. It will be great that he still prevails as president and then not make them his agenda when he wins.

Fair enough?

In responding to some comments.
1.Yes, there were women presidents in South America. If the writer had of researched further, you would have found out they were not exactly voted in. The position was passed down from their dictator husbands. So in turn they were dictators themselves.Just as brutal or more so.
2. For the writer who said that when hispanics got in a position of authority, they would hire their own. What is wrong with that¿ Other races do it all the time. The first generation sets the foundation for the next.If the establishment has failed you, you have to do the ne best thing. It´s blacks that when they were in position could have done the same thing. NO, IT WAS I GOT MINE YOU GET YOURS. If I hire a black, it would show favortism. IF these so call black leaders had of used their position to help other blacks, to mentor to them, we would not be in the position we are now. NOW we have black leaders that became virtual millionaires running social programs while feeding discontent among blacks We have to stop blaming others why we still have third and fouth genrations on welfare instead of having third and forth genrations of doctors. I am 55 now. I am what I am. If I have not taken advantage of the oppertunities given to me, it´s nobody fault except mine.
3. To the writers of how good the clintons have been to us . read my LIPS, they are from Arkansas. They didn´t do no more than they had to. They visited enough churches, ate enough tacos and beans, BBQ chicken and greens. You guys fell for this everytime. They may have put hispanics in positions. Not key ones. Bush is not one of my favorites, Idon´t have to tell you. you can research it youself. he has put more blacks, hispanic, and women in key positions cabanet than any previous presidents. You hillery and obama goupies may want to look they where they voted when Bush tried to put the FIRST hispanic on the Supreme COURT. How they voted and the rest of the dems in getting rid of the FIRST hispanic ATTORNEY GENERAL. The only position any women held during bill´s term was on her KNEES.
4. We have a political system that with the powers to be or what party puts one group against another to where one time or another they feel dis-infranchised. This is what Obama preaches. People are not stupid. You can´t go in one neighborhood and say one thing and go in another and say another. How can someone who speaks of change and yet still belongs to a black seperatist church¿
5. WHY would any hispanic vote for obama if in his first 90 days this socialis canidate want to reach out to castro and his henchmen and castro wanta be chevez to include the rest like him. With so many hispanics immigrating and leaving countries that have been runned by thugs like these, I´t doesn´t paint a pretty picture of your president cowering to the likes of these. To recognize them is to approve the abuse they put on their own people. So the hispanic not voteing for obama has nothing do with his race. They just don´t like him and his policies. I´m black and I CAN´T STAND OBAMA. He´s a socialist and that is one step from being communist.My grandfather, father and me didn´t serve our country for it to be a communist state.

In responding to some comments.
1.Yes, there were women presidents in South America. If the writer had of researched further, you would have found out they were not exactly voted in. The position was passed down from their dictator husbands. So in turn they were dictators themselves.Just as brutal or more so.
2. For the writer who said that when hispanics got in a position of authority, they would hire their own. What is wrong with that¿ Other races do it all the time. The first generation sets the foundation for the next.If the establishment has failed you, you have to do the ne best thing. It´s blacks that when they were in position could have done the same thing. NO, IT WAS I GOT MINE YOU GET YOURS. If I hire a black, it would show favortism. IF these so call black leaders had of used their position to help other blacks, to mentor to them, we would not be in the position we are now. NOW we have black leaders that became virtual millionaires running social programs while feeding discontent among blacks We have to stop blaming others why we still have third and fouth genrations on welfare instead of having third and forth genrations of doctors. I am 55 now. I am what I am. If I have not taken advantage of the oppertunities given to me, it´s nobody fault except mine.
3. To the writers of how good the clintons have been to us . read my LIPS, they are from Arkansas. They didn´t do no more than they had to. They visited enough churches, ate enough tacos and beans, BBQ chicken and greens. You guys fell for this everytime. They may have put hispanics in positions. Not key ones. Bush is not one of my favorites, Idon´t have to tell you. you can research it youself. he has put more blacks, hispanic, and women in key positions cabanet than any previous presidents. You hillery and obama goupies may want to look they where they voted when Bush tried to put the FIRST hispanic on the Supreme COURT. How they voted and the rest of the dems in getting rid of the FIRST hispanic ATTORNEY GENERAL. The only position any women held during bill´s term was on her KNEES.
4. We have a political system that with the powers to be or what party puts one group against another to where one time or another they feel dis-infranchised. This is what Obama preaches. People are not stupid. You can´t go in one neighborhood and say one thing and go in another and say another. How can someone who speaks of change and yet still belongs to a black seperatist church¿
5. WHY would any hispanic vote for obama if in his first 90 days this socialis canidate want to reach out to castro and his henchmen and castro wanta be chevez to include the rest like him. With so many hispanics immigrating and leaving countries that have been runned by thugs like these, I´t doesn´t paint a pretty picture of your president cowering to the likes of these. To recognize them is to approve the abuse they put on their own people. So the hispanic not voteing for obama has nothing do with his race. They just don´t like him and his policies. I´m black and I CAN´T STAND OBAMA. He´s a socialist and that is one step from being communist.My grandfather, father and me didn´t serve our country for it to be a communist state.

WHEN OBAMA AS NEWLY ELECTED PRESIDENT SAYS IN HIS FIRST 90 DAYS, HE IS GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE LIKES OF CASTRO AND CHEVEZ, HISPANICS HAVE A HARD TIME DIGESTING THIS. TO RECOGNIZE THEM IS APPROVE OF THE INJUSTICES THEY PUT ON THEIR OWN PEOPLE. IT WOULD LEAVE A SOUR TASTES IN ONE´S MOUTH TO SEE YOUR PRESIDENT COWERING TO LIKE OF THESE THUGS. ESPECIALLY WHEN THE MAJORITY OF HISPANICS CAME HERE FRO COUNTRIES THAT WERE RUNNED BY THESE THUGS.

I agree with GM a LOT. I myself am a Hispanic and I have many black friends. Before the whole Obama Drama as i like to call it, back when Bush was running for his second term, I would ask them who they would vote for. Of course I always got the Democrat candidate as the response, not to say that all blacks are Democrats, for I do know Of some black republicans but it is very rare.

Okay with that in mind, I decided one day to ask "why? Do you know why?...do you see him as being our next president?" (it was Kerry in this case) and I mostly got "I don't know" as the response. Or "because I'm black". This right here..is no good. So I see it as kind of a "going along with the crowd" thing. So that brings us to our next phase:

Obama vs Clinton...I've asked some black people, different ones, mostly friends, and of course I got the response...Obama...why?....Because he's black... We can't look at race anymore guys. I know we want to make history and all that...I mean but if you do not know what this guy wants to do to your country, and then you want to vote for him...you might regret it. Because if there was a Hispanic candidate running for president, I will be very interested I will not lie to you. I will probably be the MOST interested in that person. But that person will not get my vote regardless of them being hispanic, just because he's hispanic. Shoot I'd go for the asian guy running I don't care as long as he's got something good plans.

NO ONE CAN STOP OBAMA!!!!!
NEW WORLD ERA!!!!!

I found this article interesting but I agree on a lot of points. I think Asian are more likely to vote for white rather than black. Maybe because we are mor more hardworking than the black. Black tends to complain that their being out of job was cause by us being present in the US but not the fact that they just tend to become lazy and blame it on the white or other nationalities. Go Hillary!!!!I'm tired of seeing Obama on TV and the name Farrakhan!!!!

I found this very interesting as well. I don't understand why it has to be about race, but hell like others have said why not. Many whites have made it about race for ever and still do. Ohh and don't go for the Hispanic will choose the best president because they are aware of his reasonings. Many of the Hispanic race are the ones who voted for BUSH and look at you all know. Wishing you all never did it. You all hold up the signs of him being the traitor, but you all were the fools then. I mean come on black people were trying to convince you all to not vote for him, but you all didn't listen. Why???? Because a lot of Hispanic people do think they are white. No I am not saying their is anything wrong with being white, but you all are far and unheard of from it. Hell if you all want to go off of your ancestors, many black people have Caucasion and Indian in their blood. I have both, but I will say until the day I die. I am a proud BLACK WOMAN. No I am not a racist. I may have some very argumental views, but I am for from one. I am married to a Brazilian man of white like features, but he is not white. I ask him all the time why he gets upset when someone calls him a MEXICAN and he says many Brazilians look down on Mexicans. I take this as an offense because once again I have to teach him, although he looks white, to a racist white person he is just another light skinned nigger they can't wait to exterminate.

I blame the Ghanaans living in their stately Slave Castles for the Black/Negro inferiority complex that reverberates around the world. They were willing participants. Never did anything to end the nightmare. And deny the history like the German Nazis and Japanese Imperialists. African-Americans(all) have this mental wall of shame and pain that disconnects them from Africa fueling and perpetrating this ADS.

I'm just saying that position-wise, there's no difference between the candidates.

HISPANICS RACISTS AGAINST BLACKS?

Perhaps not because; HISPANICS fall in the group of people MOSTLY voting for Hillary.

IT is a fact (across all States now) that Hillary is relying on UNEDUCATED, LOW INCOME EARNERS, WOMEN and HISPANICS where available. THE EDUCATED (including educated women), THE SUCCESSFUL, the Young and well informed are voting for Obama; so it is NOT necessarily that Hispanics are Racists against Blacks (although it is in some cases), it is because they fall in the Category that Hillary is carrying. MOSTLY the UNINFORMED AND THE ECONOMICALLY CHALLENGED.

EDUCATED, SUCCESSFUL people are living in 2008, the UNEDUCATED, IGNORANTS are living in 2008 with 1900 MINDSET.

MOST of the 33% Hispanics voting for Obama are educated and WELL informed AND race is NOT the issue.

AM I saying that MOST HISPANICS voting for Hillary in Large numbers are Uneducated, economically challenged, and less informed? YES.

I am a Mexican-American, born in the United States, and am reluctant to agree with this article. Growing up, my parents and extended family all expressed (privately) racist attitudes towards blacks. I thought it was just my family but then the more Hispanics and blacks I spoke with in college, the more I realized that, quite frankly, blacks and Hispanics just don't like each other. I'm sure the reasons are very complicated but in a soundbite, maybe its because we are both competing for the same rung on the minority ladder? Think about it: of the three major minorities -- Asians, blacks and Hispanics, Asians are on top because they are generally better-educated and have better-paying jobs. Hispanics and blacks are neck-and-neck in many respects, and now Hispanics have overtaken blacks as the largest minority group by population. And both groups are competing for the same jobs, same university seats, same professional and social status, etc.
(Don't even get me started on Hispanic-on-Hispanic racism like how Mexicans hate El Salvadorans, etc. That's a whole other can of worms!)

This is really disturbing but I must admit that it is in part, true. I know, from what history has taught us, the hatred between blacks and whites. However, I don't know the history of hatred between Hispanics and blacks.Can anyone enlighten me? What I see happening now is that a man, who just so happens to be 50% African American but is viewed as being all black, run for President of the USA. What I can't understand from hispanics is the fact that he is openning doors for all people that are not white.

wake up. wake up. People whether black white or hispanic will vote on the issues irregaurdless of race. It is unfortunate that there is some discourse between latinos and blacks but for the most part, both races understands each others plight.
I am african american and respect the fact that any man would take whatever job to feed his/her family. this applies to all races. vote obama, vote hillary, whatever race you are, just vote dammit.

I've been reading all these responses and I still haven't found any answer: Why? The assertion that the hispanic/black antipathy is rooted in economic competition may have some merit, but I'm not convinced it is the whole explanation.

I'm white. I do try to judge others by their actions rather than color, but must honestly admit that race matters, my impressions of others are affected by race. I support Obama not because of race or gender but because he is intelligent, seems genuine and honest, and seems most likely to get us out of Iraq quickly, ending the worst of the multitude of detestable Bush actions. It is also my view that Hillary is the only democrat who can lose the general election, with her unique ability to unite the opposition, though that is not particularly her fault.

I find it curious that Obama is constantly identified as black, though his mother is white, and his father was a nominally muslim african, he was raised partially overseas, and as such he has few cultural ties to the decended-from-slaves african-americans now voting for him in huge numbers.

Whatever the reason, this black/hispanic antipathy clearly exists. In the general election, the majority of blacks and the majority of hispanics probably would vote for a democrat over a republican for economic and other factors, unless motivated by race to vote against the democrat. How odd if that means only a white candidate can unite the dark- and darker-skinned underserved minorities in this country to vote for their own economic advantage.

Living in Miami I surrounded by people trying to impose their language and culture and this will one day lead to a future bosnia. Before civil rights most latinos called themselves white. In fact the Latino MO is to make friends with whitey (to be acdepted) and spew racism against african American. But if they were truly white, their would be no fence to keep them out. There is no fence at the Canadian border. After African Americans got bombed and killed for the right to be humans. Latinos suddenly invented their culture to reap the benefits of the african american struggle. Today they call themselves white and spew racism against african american. But i assure you that the door the white man opened for latinos in the name of racism against African Americans is the same door that will be used against him. Thus beckons to the story of life. What we do will come back to you.

Take a look at Miami and california. There is a war going on between african americans and mexicans (but the media labels it gang related). But i assure you that it is a war and a prelude to bosnia.

Willie Lynch is a fictional character.

WHEN OBAMA AS NEWLY ELECTED PRESIDENT SAYS IN HIS FIRST 90 DAYS, HE IS GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE LIKES OF CASTRO AND CHEVEZ, HISPANICS HAVE A HARD TIME DIGESTING THIS. TO RECOGNIZE THEM IS APPROVE OF THE INJUSTICES THEY PUT ON THEIR OWN PEOPLE. IT WOULD LEAVE A SOUR TASTES IN ONE´S MOUTH TO SEE YOUR PRESIDENT COWERING TO LIKE OF THESE THUGS. ESPECIALLY WHEN THE MAJORITY OF HISPANICS CAME HERE FRO COUNTRIES THAT WERE RUNNED BY THESE THUGS so??? whats wrong with having negotiations with them? maybe if the current president was the negotiating type we wouldnt have the numerous serious plbs we have now, high astronomical gas prices, an expensive war-12billion per month, and numerous job lay offs. besides, why are you so worried about what an american president does? more than you are concerned about what you and your people have done regarding those you call tyrants. when Fidel took over Cuba your people gave up the fight, the quest to regain it. instead, you opted for a cowardly-life long stay in the United States. Unlike Blacks who fought and died in the streets of Selma Alabama and Mississippi for their freedom you took the easy way out, stayed here and now have the audacity to attack and criticize them

Everyone is posting such insightful responses, I love it! America really needed a black man to be a ser564s contender for president so the all of us can wake up and finally act like Americans and truly participate in how our country works. Dr king marched for everybody. EVERYBODY, and paved the way for everybody to be treated as equals. For all the recent immigrants, he marched for you too. Only whites and black truly understand this because we have relatives who were there and have passed down the story in one way or another. The whole world is watching us. The whole world surprisingly is pulling for Obama because he means so much more than a black man in the oval office. He means that America has the capacity to change and that will force the world to change. This vote is really beyond the petty arguments of America people. Talk to some people around the world and see for yourself.

After reading all the crap here, let me state: I love Hispanic people. Yes, it's true. I am a white man who loves the Hispanic people and the various Hispanic cultures. I may not be able to identify with you as a culture, but I admire your the things you have been able to do, the work ethic that you have, and the beliefs that you carry. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same for the black race. My experiences with them, and there have been many, have been unequivocally negative. I would guess this is why, after 200 years, they are crawling in the dust of civilization. Just because obama's mammy is white doesn't give him identity to my race. After all, she was white trailer trash. I think he'll find out in November that there are waaayyy many of us who feel the same.

I find it funny that the lowest of the low would be rascist. I am a white male with a great education,and a great job. I can honestly say that i prefer blacks over hispanics. This lie that hispanics are hard workers is comical to me. Does anyone take the time to look into the welfare offices of many big cities across the country? The majority of people in there are hispanic. They come here to defraud our country. Think about it,if they were really hardworking honest people their home country wouldn't be such a cess pool. Now some are nice,but the majority are lazy scam running criminals. Wherever they go,they tear it down. Some blacks are lazy to,but think about it white americans,hispanics are not crazy about us either. My brother in law had a construction company in california. He had to shut down,because when he found out that most of his crew was illegal,instead of just walking way with their freedom,these leeches filed false workers comp claims. They have dozens of babies by different men,and refuse to learn english. Blacks never asked for as much stuff as the leeches do. Like I sad we may have our differences with the blacks,but we need to unite against a common enemy,that's the illegal alien population invading our schools and communities.

Obama is FOOLING voters with his fainting spells. Pass this on. Especially to the voters in the Southwest. People out here aren't politically-inclined as much and they will buy this foolish man's rhetoric.

I found this article interesting but I agree on a lot of points. I think Asian are more likely to vote for white rather than black. Maybe because we are mor more hardworking than the black.

The reason that many Hispanics are voting for Hillary is that many of us are keenly aware of lingering racism and bigotry in America.